
The West Texas Boys
Doc Talk: The West Texas Boys
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Tune in for a conversation with the Peña brothers.
Tune in for a conversation with the Peña brothers.
The West Texas Boys is a local public television program presented by Panhandle PBS
The West Texas Boys
Doc Talk: The West Texas Boys
Special | 21m 48sVideo has Closed Captions
Tune in for a conversation with the Peña brothers.
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(upbeat music) - The first question that I wanna ask y'all each, separately, as I'm just curious what your reactions to the documentary.
You guys have not seen any of it, so, Tio Nune.
- It was very good.
I'm very proud of him.
Whatever was said and done there, it was 110% the truth and we appreciate it.
As for myself and I imagine for them too.
- I just brought so, brought back so many memories of my brother, my parents, my nephew.
It was just, it was awesome, so thank you very much.
It meant, it means a lot to me what you did for us.
And just keep on reaching for your dreams.
That's what it's about.
- Everybody told me it was gonna take some, jerk a tear outta me and it did, ya know?
It's like my oldest son, Carlos, says, he goes, "Dad, you've turned into a big ol marshmallow, Dad."
I'll go, "It is what it is."
- All I gotta say about it is, I really loved it, amigo.
All the details, I don't know how much, where you got all those videos from but, that was pretty cool to see those old videos and very happy.
The story and the turnout, of course, thank you everybody for coming out.
That made it even more special.
- Adam, it was heartfelt, man.
It was a tear jerker.
It was awesome, man.
There's a lot of pictures in there I hadn't seen before, pictures I had seen before.
Brought back a lot of memories and thank you to you and your crew for doing, ya know, putting this together.
It means a lot, ya know?
We love you guys.
We love you for doing it.
Thank you everybody for showing up and we love y'all.
- My next question for y'all is, I just kinda wanted to get in a little bit more of like, Larry, you spoke a lot in the doc about how it was hard to sort of make friends and stuff whenever you traveled.
What role did family play in place of making friends because that's really like all you had?
- My brothers were my friends.
That's who kept us together, my brothers.
You know, we'd go from school to school and, see what I mean, still?
Still yeah, still takin' care of me.
So what I'm sayin' is, we couldn't make friends 'cause I mean, if we did, it was like from one day to another and these were my best friends right here.
These were my friends.
These were the people who take care of me, my older brothers, ya know?
And my nephews and it just went downhill.
Ya know, like we'd take care of them, they'd take care, it's just, everybody would watch.
Like I said, somebody would go to the restroom, you had four other guys right behind them, you know, "Hey, take care of them.
Make sure everything's cool."
You know, so, this was my family and this was my friends.
They were my friends.
So, I never felt like I didn't have friends 'cause I had my brothers, so.
- A lot of, I was shocked to learn how many people in my own family didn't know about Jose Adan.
Right, there was actually some people, although people from our generation that don't really know much about him.
Obviously, with Grandma and Grandpa gone, it's ya know, a lot of those stories go away too.
I wanted to ask Tio Nune 'cause I didn't get a chance to ask you, whenever we were actually filming the doc, do you have any memories of him?
I mean I know that you were just a little bit older but is there anything that you remember about him?
- No.
(speaks foreign language) That was the only thing I could remember.
He would cry, you know?
(speaks foreign language) And that's all I remember.
(speaks foreign language) - I thought it was interesting too how like, from talking to all the brothers, all of you included him in like your count of the siblings and I asked all of you the question, did you guys think it was your Dad's dream for you guys to all play together?
Every single one of you made mention of him.
So, I think that in a world now where we live in a place where sometimes, ya know, infants that go away are often forgotten.
You guys haven't and I love that.
- Thank you.
(audience claps) - What was it like for them to get you to drum?
Like was it just one day to the next day, asked you, or how did that even happen?
- Well, there, the guys knew that I played drums and percussion in school.
So, they knew I had, ya know, some kinda talent in drumming.
Then, they would also witness me get up there and beat on Raymond's drums when he wasn't around 'cause Raymond wouldn't let anybody on his drums.
So, he'd go to the van or go relax and I'd beat the hell out of em.
He'd come back, it's like the, like Step Brothers.
(audience laughs) "I know you're around my drums, but nah."
But, he, and then, of course, they would hear me.
The guys would hear me you know, mimic what Raymond would play.
So, they would say, "Hey man, Fide, he kinda gots it down."
So, the whole time that I would watch Raymond, he never knew that he was teaching me how to play the drums and that's how I learned, just watching him, his moves, his foot work.
Everything he did, I just went up there and mimic it and came naturally, so.
Then they seen it, the guys seen it and said, "Hey yeah, you're the guy."
So, let's go.
- You know, you've run your own successful business for a long time.
The joke I make to everybody is it's the only business in this family that's employed more Penas than the band, right?
(audience laughing) So, I'm curious, I loved how you mentioned in some ways how like your early days as a roadie actually prepared you to run this business that you've run for over 20 years.
- Well just being in charge of all that responsibility, all the instruments, all the equipment, these guys, what they need, you know?
I just learned how to, the work ethic was there.
You know what I mean?
I looked up to my Dad, especially, ya know?
Like I said, I quit school.
So you know, I had to work and I had to, and I found my way, thank God.
Ya know, to run my own business.
You know, 'cause I'd been doing it since I was 11 years old, you know?
With these guys, as a roadie, and running a crew, you know, so it kind of all came together.
- [Host] Went hand in hand?
- Yeah.
- So, this question is for Dad, for my Dad, Gilbert, when I was growing up and when I was in school, especially, the reason why I think that I like always shot for the stars was because, ya know, my Dad never wavered on his support of whatever I wanted to do, to do it.
How is it, Dad, that you never let the lows sort of dictate the way that you would raise me and my sisters in terms of chasing dreams?
- I think that came from Dad, from our Dad.
Right Sister, our Dad?
Yeah, okay.
From our Dad that ya know, he would always say, "Go for it, son, go for it."
And Mom, Mom was always backing him up.
So, whatever Dad said, it was good with Mom.
So, that's why with you, my kids, and our nephews, it's just keep going forward.
You know, don't let the dream die just because, like Mr. Ali said, don't let the naysayers bring you down.
Yeah, there's a lot of lows.
But just one good high makes everything worth it.
Like my brother, Fide said one time, you know?
Just watching people sing our songs, it doesn't matter if there's 10 people.
If they're all singing our songs, that's good for us.
That makes us happy.
So, that, trumps the bad any time.
- And another thing too that you would always say to me that I thought was interesting is how like, you know, if you wouldn't have pursued your dreams, you wouldn't have had the time that you did with your brother, Raymond.
Will you talk a little bit about that?
- Yeah, I mean, it's just, since like I said, for me, day one, I was the one to be with my brothers.
Playing music, I loved it.
Like I said, my brother Raymond was my protector.
He would protect me from anybody and anyone even when we were in school.
I just, I thank God I had the time to spend with him like that.
He was just, he was an amazing man.
Like I said, he'd protect us.
He protected me.
He always watched for me.
He always stuck his neck out for me and my younger ones, which is me, Larry, and Fide.
But, yeah, the time with him was awesome.
(audience clapping) - I know this is going back to when Gil started playing the bass but, I remember when he started the bass, the bass weighed more than he did.
(laughing) I mean, this guy would be playing the bass.
He'd be leaning against the box and all of a sudden, it was like, "Bro, what's wrong?"
He's fixin' to pass out on stage 'cause that's how many gigs they would do and he was just like, "Ohh, okay, okay."
But this man right here, he wanted it bad.
He'd call them, say you're in the group.
How many blisters did you get, Gil?
- A lot.
- But he learned it.
He wanted it.
That's just, when he picked up that bass, he'd pick it up like, it's like, "Dude, that thing weighs more than you do, bro."
He'd look at me like, "Yeah, whatever."
(laughing) - You know, we came up this week on eight years since Noodle Boy's been gone and it just happened in a flash.
Like if you don't mind, would you tell me what you miss about Noodle Boy the most?
(speaks foreign language) - I asked your Dad and I'll ask you the same question.
What do you miss most about Noodle Boy and about your brother?
- I would call him or he would call me.
I'd be on the road somewhere.
Let's say like from Denton to Lubbock.
He'd call me.
I'd be jammin' actually, I'd be jammin'.
I'd call him up.
"Check it out, bro."
It was (speaks Spanish) just for you guys that don't know.
(audience laughs) He's like, "Man bro, that's a jam man!"
Or he'd call me, "Bro, check it out."
And you know, and he'd either be jammin' or he'd have a song that he had written.
And just him calling me and you know, just shootin' ya know?
Just talkin'.
Ya know?
(audience laughs) Or me callin' him, ya know, just if he needed me, I needed him, we'd lean on each other.
It's just, it was always like that, ya know?
- It is a tremendous life but I'm curious, what is it that keeps you moving forward all these years later?
- You're lookin' at em.
Right here.
They, that's really what it is.
(clapping) That's my brothers.
Like I said, I got another brother right there, sittin' right there.
And it's just awesome.
Like I said, we spent time.
We traveled the states.
We'd travel and make friends.
We'd make compadres, our cousins, and we'd spend time with them, you know?
Like a lot of people, they don't have the ability to go.
And we go as a family.
And we go present our music and we spend time with them.
They opened our doors to us and that's what I like is just having family all over the United States.
We can go South Texas.
We can go Indiana, Ohio, Michigan.
We got friends, we got family.
We got that, we don't need to stay in hotels.
We don't need to go eat at Burger King and stuff like that.
We have family, we have friends, sisters, brothers, and like I said, friends, nephew and neices.
Hey Tio come on over.
My nephew Junior and Victoria, my sister Victoria, our sisters in San Antonio, everything's awesome.
Our neices in San Antonio.
That's what I love about playing music.
I get to spend time with my family, my friends, and then, that's what it is right here.
My love for my family.
- Awesome.
(clapping) It's also interesting too 'cause I think, was it Larry that was the first one to graduate high school out of all of the siblings, right?
You're the first one that graduated high school and I just think it's awesome.
There's a big reason why I was happy that Amarillo College was excited to do this with us because ya know, you guys, a lot of you didn't graduate high school and I think that like, it's awesome that you guys went your own way but also how you guys have always instilled in the next generation like, ya know, you can be like us and do music, as my Dad told me.
But it's like, you're gonna go to college 'cause you're, you're not, he'd say I'm not but you're not dumb like me.
But ya know, I'm curious, Larry, what was it that led to you sort of breaking that curse or if it's a curse.
I mean, what was it?
- I don't think it was a curse.
The thing is that, like I said, just like the movie said, the documentary said, we'd always jump from school to school and we didn't have time.
Then, when these guys started playing, well, they all just started getting out.
And I feel, like you said, I feel like I broke that trend.
Then, Fidi graduated and then everybody started, and then we started seeing our nephews go to college.
That was awesome, you know?
We finally broke, like you said, that little trend where nobody was graduating.
But, we had to do what we had to do to support our families at that time.
But now, everybody's doing, as long as our nephews, our families, our kids are doing better than us, I'm happy.
I'm happy.
I'm happy if they're doing better than us, I'm happy and I'm grateful because we set that trend for them.
You know what I mean?
We worked our butt off, all of us, to do what we had to do.
(clapping) Thank you.
(clapping) - We sort of like test screened this for different people and a big question that always pops up is if the sisters, do the sisters play music?
Like is there, are there hermanas?
There's hermanas Pena or something over there?
Will you speak a little bit about, about what your sisters mean to you because although we did mention them, obviously you could do a whole documentary about their story, especially recently.
But what's, what would you say about your sisters and what role they play in the relationship of the siblings?
- They're, they're no different than us, you know?
They've always, they're always there, always supportin' us.
I wish we can give em a round of applause too.
The sisters.
(clapping) Juanita Amalia, Corina, and Marie Martina, I was gonna say Maria.
I did say Maria.
Martina.
But they play a big part, of course, in our family.
If you don't have family, man, it's a, you can be really rich and financially, but if you don't have family, you don't have nothin'.
That's, I strongly believe that.
But I'm rich with family, so.
Love y'all.
- Yeah.
(clapping) Okay, from your led experience, what do you hope people take from the way that we've operated as the Pena family all these years?
- You go first, you're the oldest.
(speaks Spanish) (laughing) - 'Cause in Central Park.
(laughs) (speaks foreign language) - Just the family, son, just the unity, the love that we had for each other.
And just, show everybody what family means, family and friends.
I have so many friends here too.
And that's my take, just.
- I hope that you guys, once we're gone, y'all keep seeing each other.
Y'all keep going to each others houses, have cookouts.
Just love each other.
And when we're gone, we know if that happens, we'll be watching from you guys from up there.
We know we did our job.
- Everybody's got their opinions and everybody's got their way of life and how they act and their attitudes.
But, I can, I can easily disagree with my brother, Louis, on something.
But I'd rather just say, you know what?
I'm not gonna confront him just because he, ya know, does something minor and I wanna be, ya know, I wanna be right.
Does that make sense?
You just respect each other.
That's what I'm tryin' to say.
Respect each other and respect each other how you guys, just, if he's different than you, well then, that's how it is.
Just respect each other.
100 percent, love each other.
That's what I want everybody to take.
- No, for me, it's the same as them.
Unity in the family.
(clapping) - I'm curious too 'cause obviously, we're filming this for it's gonna, some of this is gonna air after the documentary and I'm curious that, a question a lot of people had is sort of like, what was the Division of Labor whenever it came to recording an album?
Like how did you even know what to play on the bass?
How did you guys form songs, ya know?
It's, your process is very interesting.
- That is just, I mean, it would just come to us, like Raymond, my brother Raymond, he would do a lick and I was like, that sounds good bro, put it in.
Then I would follow him.
Then sometimes, I would do something.
He goes, hey bro, that sounds good.
It was never a play it this way or do that.
No, you do this and it was just, it came to us naturally.
Everything we did, everything you hear on the CD, it was natural.
It wasn't, ya know, like, it was raw, yeah.
Like Larry said, it was raw.
It was just us, what we love doing.
Ya know, so that's how we always, we record up to this day.
Me and Fide, ya know, we had to get out this last, ya know, it's a cordless and he was singing it to get the hang of it and then Luis comes, my brother Luis and then he puts his vocal and it's like, "Okay, that sounds better."
So we left it in.
It's just, whatever we feel, that's what comes out.
Nothing, no hey, do it this way, do it that way.
No, do this.
We just put all our gifts together and that's what comes out.
(clapping) - Okay, this is my last question.
It's for Antonio.
(clapping) Is it true that whenever you stopped talking, you and Larry got closer?
(audience laughing) (speaks foreign language) - Okay, on behalf of everybody at Panhandle PBS, and these guys, ya know, I wanna say thank you to everybody who helped to make this happen.
There's a big team of people from PBS that are here that helped all this come to be.
Whenever I went into Julie Grimes' office the very first time whenever I was here for the writer's strike, I told her, I said, I wanna do the story about my Dad and his brothers and I'd never even thought of a premiere, none of that.
That was her idea and honestly, I'm very excited 'cause I'm glad I got this moment to share it with y'all.
So, that's the end of our show, but I love y'all and thank you.
One more time for these men.
(cheering) (clapping) (upbeat music)
The West Texas Boys is a local public television program presented by Panhandle PBS